Gemini 15-16 A Woman Suffragist Orating

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Gavin Mills @

My friend Pam has her IC on this symbol, and her story is as follows:

This symbol is my IC - the deepest roots of a person...for me at times not a particular pleasant degree especially when it squares Pluto in virgo 16 degrees (A Volcanic Eruption in the 7th).
This degree really only came to life for me during a very arduous divorce, employment to an abusive and egocentric employer (his sun was 15 Gemini conjunct my IC)...followed by a partnership to a man with unresolved paedophilia in his family.

The connection between these scenarios....the feeling of powerlessness in relationships..involving the deepest parts of security (4th house)..there partnership (7th House) and the rights of a children (mercury in the 5th house..gemini's ruler).

All these issues are very much being raised today with the church, paedophillia and the rights of woman in the workforce.

My maternal family roots are that of coal miners during the periods of much union unrest. My mothers uncles being leaders of the coal mining unions when miners had appalling conditions of work.(very Plutonic - Hades being underground).

This all happened quite suddenly during my Uranian (sudden) opposition at 42 when I filed for divorce (transiting uranus conjunct the ascendent).
I had lived at this point mainly under the realm of my Moon In Aquarius 21...A rug is placed on the floor of a nursery to allow children to play in comfort and warmth) childhood being the normal middle class 70's - 80's upbringing. Interestingly, now I have a few rugs in my house!
I am told that when I was a baby my family would say "does this child ever speak"...I am now trying to control my haranguing into a more mature thinker (gemini 17 - The head of a robust youth changes into that of a mature thinker..midpoint of uranus 17 virgo).

For you other visitors, does any part of the symbol resonate with you? In case you didn't know, a suffragist was an activist that campaigned for women's right to vote.

Also, often this symbol has been changed from 'Orating' to 'Haranguing'. The original handwritten symbols (helpfully photocopied in Diana E. Roche's "The Sabian Symbols: A Screen of Prophecy") are used in this website, however visitors may use other versions - whatever resonates :)

Share your experiences of this Gemini energy!

Do any of the astrological bodies (Venus, Jupiter, Chiron etc) fall on this symbol for you? What has it meant in your life?

Please note that your comment may be edited for other visitors' experience. We aim to share knowledge and experience for greater learning.

Many thanks!

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Feb 01, 2016
A reason for every energy
by: Bek

Hi Pam, thank you for sharing that story. I wonder sometimes with all the horror that exists, that we are born in a time and place to meet certain people with our specific gifts (your gemini 16) to put an end to generational suffering of a family? That is, to blow it out into the open, and then the healing begins or at least the crimes stop?

You were born into a unionised family and probably had many past lives agitating for better conditions for people, and you may have decided you had strength of soul to do that again in this life. Unfortunately sometimes life doesn't give us the positive feedback of how we have helped people with our gifts, and so we suffer thinking our gifts have got us into trouble.

In fact, we did our best with what we have brought to others, and THEIR ongoing choices determine THEIR karmic progression.

Nonetheless, I understand how tough this symbol has been in your life, and clearly you have a lot of leadership in you to have managed this degree in your life.

Thank you so much Pam.

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